they/them/themselves. Pyrrha and some hangers-on. Fire-souled ghost prophetess naiad exile faery mother of god. Stone ace, generally sex-repulsed; damaged survivor. White physically-enabled mentally-fucked nb lesbian of strange rituals, once dead, thrice risen; self-Dx ASD. Do not allow for leaders, question communities.


be careful, please… those who position themselves as community leaders are good at implying safety/trustworthiness but often horrendous at enacting it, intentionally or otherwise


btw i can confirm a lot of what quinn said, i was involved in the same online community as both quinn and cat and saw a lot of that behavior firsthand. i failed to realize at the time how little cat was consulting quinn when she was making a lot of decisions about quinn’s life, and i failed to intervene when i could have.

i thought cat was doing the right thing by removing herself from this community, but in light of her recent return to tumblr and especially the posts she’s been making tonight it is important to talk openly about these things. i trusted cat a lot more than i should have and i feel really bad about how things turned out.



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i’m going to address this one point at a time and this is the last thing i have to say about this because i am tired of you telling lies and half-truths to paint me as some kind of fucking monster.

1. i never manipulated you. i never did anything. the context of our relationship was originally a friendship; we became friends in about mid-2014 when i was 18 years old. i invited you to a group chat shortly after that consisted of me and a few trans girl friends.

2. the way you told me you liked me was back in january/february you called me on skype dead on your ass drunk while i was going through a suicide crisis and told me that i couldn’t leave you and i couldn’t DO THIS TO YOU because you LOVED me so much. i spent the next 1-2 hours in a call with you trying to calm you down and in the middle of that went and fucking threw up so the pills i took wouldn’t kill me. the context there is you were telling a 19 year old girl who had recently started her transition that you were in love with her and she coudln’t leave you, while you, someone almost ten years older, were fucking drunk on everclear.

3. the relationship became sexual when you started fucking flirting with me. i was never, ever, ever even REMOTELY sexual interested in you because i’m not attracted to you! because i was scared of you! because the way you behaved in group chats was frightening!

4. i fucking resent so hard you turning our sexual relationship into “i was so uncomfortable with fucking this 19 year old” when literally you’re the one who did it. the first time we met we had a fucking threesome within two hours; you asked to cuddle me and then you and your girlfriend started groping me and kissing me and taking my clothes off. that is exactly what fucking happened and i don’t know how the fuck you’re going to dispute that when i could just ask her myself. (not to mention the weird shit you did when you wanted to fuck me! but hey let’s not talk about that since apparently you “remember it differently” and i guess that means it’s unfair of me to bring up how you fucking me reminded me of the time i was raped at 9 years old!)

5. i came to other people because you fucking scared me and i wanted confirmation that i wasn’t being crazy; i wanted confirmation from others that i wasn’t making up everything about you and that i had good reasons to be scared. funnily enough, several of these people thought similar things!! who fucking knew! there’s a fucking REASON when we remade the group chat we DIDN’T INVITE YOU UNTIL YOU MADE A BIG FUCKING FUSS ABOUT IT; WE ARE SCARED OF YOU AND THE WAY YOU TALK AND OPERATE AND HAVE BEEN FOR MONTHS

6. i came up to visit you in portland after you screamed for hours at my friends who were housing me in california and hten ORDERED them to not tell me about it. i found out about it anyway and found out how scared they were of you and the way you told them that i wasn’t allowed to know things! you screamed at them because i spent too much money while in their care and then told them you were moving me to portland all while not telling me!

7. you told me i was “visiting” portland. you didn’t tell me i was moving there. you didn’t tell me i was moving in with you. you didn’t tell me i was going to be the SECOND homeless girl moving into your 2-bedroom apartment for a total of 4 people on no furniture. you told everyone EXCEPT For me, deliberately, because you knew i’d be uncomfortable with it. because i was! after i came up to visit you you kept talking to me about “settling down” and “getting my things set up here” and i was confused! incredibly confused! i didn’t find out you intended for me to fucking move in with you until i was already on the train up to visit talking to friends on skype. i had no fucking clue what was happening because YOU TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO TELL ME; YOU UNDERMINED MY AGENCY AND TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME BECAUSE YOU WANTED ME TO BE YOUR FUCKING GIRLFRIEND

8. i finally became okay with moving in with you; i had a crush on your spouse, with which you didn’t really have a relationship! you were on the verge of being separated and were staying in seperate rooms. i asked you permission to hang out with her because i felt that would be polite; you gave it, happily. i asked your permission to become intimate with her and you gave it, in much the same fashion. i later found out she asked you if she could be intimate with me, and you approved it. about a week into my stay with you she and i became intimate, you walked in on it, and got extremely upset. at one point we locked the door so you wouldn’t walk in on us and you became physically and verbally violent. i started making plans to leave and you had to fucking walk out and almost drag me back in because you didn’t want me gone. we never fucking asked you to move out or even IMPLIED it. i started sleeping in sam’s room because your violence and anger made me uncomfortable and scared, and you took that as me somehow fucking blacklisting you or intentionally trying to hurt you. we didn’t fucking force you to move out; you went to seattle to hang out with your girlfriend and while over there messaged us over skype letting us know that you were getting a divorce and moving out. we didn’t do SHIT in that department, that was entirely. fucking. you.

9. i literally never claimed anyone was a teenager other than myself idk where the fuck this is coming from but hey! your targets of abuse and manipulation just so happen to be young trans kids in their late teens/early 20s so What Do I Know

10. oh boy. the greatest cover up ever; lie and then say “i’m going to get accused of lying”, how completely fucking undone and how unheard of as a tactic of abuse!

you moved me into your house under false pretenses, treated me with violence and subjected me to a stressful and disgusting home environment, and then fucking moved out when you got mad at me friendzoning you. that’s what fucking happened you absolute child

having previously experienced what we could only now understand as abortive grooming by monetizeyourcat, this all makes too much fucking sense and we’re glad we separated from interaction w her back when we did, and I am so terrified and afraid for everyone else. be safe and well and let the truth burn ever onward.


"I know some rich guy who fled Cuba therefore communism is bad" = "Nobles fled post-revolution France therefore republicanism is bad"

wdk our memory is horrible and we were switching fronts like every five minutes at that time so it might be worthless trying to reconstruct timing itself, you could tell us anything wrt it and we’d end up believing it




also remember—i didn’t strike first. or second. or third. i responded late, far too late.

k but u didnt tho

u talked abt it immediately

u went on the offensive right the fuck away while eve was still reeling from u twisting this…

I guess our memory of timings of seeing stuff might be really fucking screwed up… but we heard from your message first, after Elle had just said you were sending stuff around. we didn’t know what was referred to until your message got us and then we didn’t… like, get it. we asked about some parts to try to understand why you were right (bc you just had to be) and were talking w someone else about it bc they were suspicious of the claims too, we both started to question it all more. we stopped interacting w you or Eve’s supporters directly (aside from spacedyke at one point) once you started asking us to trust that you’d investigated this thoroughly enough to know what really happened, we felt uncomfortable w that assertion and also realized we cared too much about your judgement to seek truth in things without just assuming you were inherently right, which is what we had pretty much always done before. then We talked more w other party (again you prolly know who this is) and started talking to Elle at some level of depth within the next couple of days. I feel like this timeline makes more sense maybe?
what we’re hung up on primarily is how initiating a knife play scene without receiving consent or giving notice first, but still tying the partner down as they expect there will be no knife, isn’t rape. that is far and wide our main issue with what you all are saying